Episode 48: Why I DISAGREE with the concept of MAIDEN, MOTHER, and CRONE

Episode 48: Why I DISAGREE with the concept of MAIDEN, MOTHER, and CRONE

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The concept of Maiden, Mother, and Crone makes me uncomfortable – and here’s why. I know this might be an unpopular opinion, but I felt like I needed to give my perspective on this concept because I know I’m not alone.

FULL DISCLOSURE – This is my own opinion ONLY. I know that the MMC concept works for many, many people – and that’s okay!

Here are some links that I used for my research and information

o https://www.patheos.com/blogs/teaaddictedwitch/2018/07/maiden-mother-crone-model/
o http://www.mother-god.com/triple-goddess.html
o https://acelebrationofwomen.org/2013/12/the-three-women-maiden-mother-crone/
o http://themotherhouseofthegoddess.com/2017/05/11/maiden-mother-crone-ancient-tradition-or-new-creative-synthesis-by-carol-p-christ/
o https://www.learnreligions.com/maiden-mother-and-crone-2562881
o https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_Goddess_%28Neopaganism%29
o https://www.patheos.com/blogs/allergicpagan/2014/11/19/13-things-you-dont-need-to-know-about-the-triple-goddess-but-are-kind-of-interesting/
o https://www.patheos.com/blogs/allergicpagan/2014/11/15/the-secret-history-of-the-triple-goddess-part-3-will-the-real-triple-goddess-please-stand-up/

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